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Hoppe Tongue Lock

Hoppe Tongue Lock

Hoppe Tongue Lock – Steps to take before ordering your replacement lock.

Step #1 – Find Your Backset

How to measure a multipoint lock backset

Step #2 – Find Your Dead Bolt Throw

How to measure a Hoppe lock deadbolt throw for lock replacement.
Measure your existing Tongue lock and determine the “Back Set”. The back set is the measurement of the distance from the edge of your door to the center of the handle. The only backsets available from Hoppe are:
  • 35mm or 1 3/8 Inches
  • 45mm 0r 1 3/4 Inches (The Most Common Backset)
  • 60mm or 2 3/8 Inches
  • 70mm or 2 3/4 Inches
You will need to know the “Deadbolt Throw” distance. This is the measurement  of how far the deadbolt extends out of the 3 point mortise lock. Open the door, Activate the lock by lifting upward on the handle. Turn the thumb turn knob and extend the deadbolt. Hoppe only has (2) deadbolt options to choose from.
  • 14 mm or 1/2 Inch – Available on 35mm and 45mm Backsets
  • 25mm or 1 Inch – Available on all backsets

Once you know the “Backset” and “Deadbolt Throw”, You should be able to find the proper Hoppe Tongue Lock below

Below are the available options for Hoppe Tongue Locks. Please select your lock below and click on the link, you will be taken to the product page of the lock you have selected. There you can read the specifications and purchase your lock replacement. Locks are separated into available backsets first, then by deadbolt throw measurements.

8778299 Hoppe automatic tongue lock that replaces Hoppe and FUHR automatic tongue locking systems.

Hoppe Tongue lock. This lock only locks at the deadbolt and Tongue. No bottom shootbolt.

There are Only Tongue locking points on the door edge between the deadbolt and the tongue.

35mm Backset

35mm (1 3/8″) Backset, 14mm (1/2″) Deadbolt Throw

35mm (1 3/8″) Backset, 14mm (1/2″) Deadbolt Throw, Tongue Position @ 6 5/16″ up from bottom of door panel.       Based on 36″ Handle Height.

35mm (1 3/8″) Backset, 14mm (1/2″) Deadbolt Throw

35mm (1 3/8″) Backset, 14mm (1/2″) Deadbolt Throw, Tongue Position @ 9 9/16″ up from bottom of door panel.       Based on 36″ Handle Height.

35mm (1 3/8″) Backset, 25mm (1″) Deadbolt Throw

35mm (1 3/8″) Backset, 25mm (1″) Deadbolt Throw, Tongue Position @ 6 5/16″ up from bottom of door panel.       Based on 36″ Handle Height.

35mm (1 3/8″) Backset, 25mm (1″) Deadbolt Throw

35mm (1 3/8″) Backset, 25mm (1″) Deadbolt Throw, Tongue Position @ 9 9/16″ up from bottom of door panel.       Based on 36″ Handle Height.

35mm (1 3/8″) Backset, 25mm (1″) Deadbolt Throw

35mm (1 3/8″) Backset, 25mm (1″) Deadbolt Throw, Tongue Position @ 11 9/16″ up from bottom of door panel.       Based on 36″ Handle Height.

45mm Backset

45mm (1 3/4″) Backset, 14mm (1/2″) Deadbolt Throw

45mm (1 3/4″) Backset, 14mm (1/2″) Deadbolt Throw, Tongue Position @ 6 5/16″ up from bottom of door panel.       Based on 36″ Handle Height.

45mm (1 3/4″) Backset, 14mm (1/2″) Deadbolt Throw

45mm (1 3/4″) Backset, 14mm (1/2″) Deadbolt Throw, Tongue Position @ 9 9/16″ up from bottom of door panel.       Based on 36″ Handle Height.

45mm (1 3/4″) Backset, 25mm (1″) Deadbolt Throw

45mm (1 3/4″) Backset, 25mm (1″) Deadbolt Throw, Tongue Position @ 6 5/16″ up from bottom of door panel.       Based on 36″ Handle Height.

45mm (1 3/4″) Backset, 25mm (1″) Deadbolt Throw

45mm (1 3/4″) Backset, 25mm (1″) Deadbolt Throw, Tongue Position @ 9 9/16″ up from bottom of door panel.       Based on 36″ Handle Height.

45mm (1 3/4″) Backset, 25mm (1″) Deadbolt Throw

45mm (1 3/4″) Backset, 25mm (1″) Deadbolt Throw, Tongue Position @ 11 9/16″ up from bottom of door panel.       Based on 36″ Handle Height.

60mm Backset

60mm (2 3/8″) Backset, 25mm (1″) Deadbolt Throw

60mm (2 3/8″) Backset, 25mm (1″) Deadbolt Throw, Tongue Position @ 6 5/16″ up from bottom of door panel.       Based on 36″ Handle Height.

60mm (2 3/8″) Backset, 25mm (1″) Deadbolt Throw

60mm (2 3/8″) Backset, 25mm (1″) Deadbolt Throw, Tongue Position @ 9 9/16″ up from bottom of door panel.       Based on 36″ Handle Height.

60mm (2 3/8″) Backset, 25mm (1″) Deadbolt Throw

60mm (2 3/8″) Backset, 25mm (1″) Deadbolt Throw, Tongue Position @ 11 9/16″ up from bottom of door panel.       Based on 36″ Handle Height.

70mm Backset

70mm (2 3/4″) Backset, 25mm (1″) Deadbolt Throw

70mm (2 3/4″) Backset, 25mm (1″) Deadbolt Throw, Tongue Position @ 6 5/16″ up from bottom of door panel.       Based on 36″ Handle Height.

70mm (2 3/4″) Backset, 25mm (1″) Deadbolt Throw

70mm (2 3/4″) Backset, 25mm (1″) Deadbolt Throw, Tongue Position @ 9 9/16″ up from bottom of door panel.       Based on 36″ Handle Height.

70mm (2 3/4″) Backset, 25mm (1″) Deadbolt Throw

70mm (2 3/4″) Backset, 25mm (1″) Deadbolt Throw, Tongue Position @ 11 9/16″ up from bottom of door panel.       Based on 36″ Handle Height.

Tongue Lock Top Extensions, Mid Extensions and Locking Gears

Part Number Lock Part Tongue Height
(From bottom of door)

Part Length

 

Overall Door Panel Height
(Lock Gear + Top Extension = Overall)
Part Can Be Trimmed a Maximum Of:
3137707 Top Extension (1) Tongue @ 65 1/4″ 1058mm (41.65) 71″ – 79 1/4″ 8 1/4″
8778551 Top Extension (1) Tongue @ 65 1/4″ 1220mm (48.03) 71″ – 85 5/8″ 17 5/8″
8778555 Top Extension (1) Tongue @ 73 3/16″ 1395mm (54.92) 79 1/8″ –  92 1/2″ 13 3/8″
8778559 Top Extension (1) Tongue @ 73 3/16″ 1570mm (61.81) 79 1/8″ – 99 7/16″ 20 5/16″
8778563 Top Extension (1) Tongue @ 82 15/16″ 1745mm (68.70) 88 3/4 – 106 5/16″ 17 9/16″
8778567 Top Extension (1) Tongue @ 98 3/4″ 1920mm (75.59) 104 1/2″ – 113 3/16″ 8 11/16″
8778571 Top Extension (1) Tongue @ 98 3/4″ 2095mm (82.48) 104 1/2″  – 120 1/16″ 15 9/16″
8778575 Top Extension (1) Tongue @ 98 3/4″ 2270mm (89.37) 104 1/2″ – 127″ 22 1/2″
2240631 Top Extension (2)  Tongues @ 62″ & 85″ 1424mm (56.06) 91 15/16″ – 93 11/16″ 1 11/16″
3387298 Top Extension (2)  Tongues @ 73 3/16″ & 95″ 1988mm (78.66) 100 15/16″ – 116 1/4″ 15 5/16″
2949640 Top Extension (2)  Tongues @ 73 3/16″ & 95″ 2093mm (82.40) 100 15/16″ – 120″ 19 1/16″
3021229 Top Extension (2)  Tongues @ 77 5/16″ & 108 13/16″ 2093mm (82.40) 114 11/16″ – 120″ 5 5/16″
Part Number Lock Part Locking Point From Bottom of Door Up Backset Deadbolt Throw Description
2423904 Gear Tongue  @ 11 9/16″ 35mm – (1 3/8″ )  Backset            25mm ( 1″ ) M/35/25 / 914 / TN1 / 620 / 16-SC / 160
8779123 Gear Tongue  @ 11 9/16″ 45mm – ( 1 3/4″ )  Backset             25mm ( 1″ ) M/45/25 / 914 / TN1 / 620 / 16-SC / 160
8778171 Gear Tongue  @ 9 9/16″ 35mm – (1 3/8″ )  Backset 14mm ( 1/2″ ) M/35/14 / 914 / TN1 / 671 / 16-SC / 115
8778167 Gear Tongue  @ 9 9/16″ 45mm – ( 1 3/4″ )  Backset 14mm ( 1/2″ ) M/45/14 / 914 / TN1 / 671 / 16-SC / 115
8778147 Gear Tongue  @ 9 9/16″ 35mm – (1 3/8″ )  Backset             25mm ( 1″ ) M/35/25 / 914 / TN1 / 671 / 16-SC / 115
8778075 Gear Tongue  @ 9 9/16″ 45mm – ( 1 3/4″ )  Backset             25mm ( 1″ ) M/45/25 / 914 / TN1 / 671 / 16-SC / 115
8778159 Gear Tongue  @ 6 5/16″ 35mm – (1 3/8″ )  Backset 14mm ( 1/2″ ) M/35/14 / 914 / TN1 / 753 / 16-SC / 30
8778183 Gear Tongue  @ 6 5/16″ 45mm – ( 1 3/4″ )  Backset 14mm ( 1/2″ ) M/45/14 / 914 / TN1 / 753 / 16-SC / 30
8778143 Gear Tongue  @ 6 5/16″ 35mm – (1 3/8″ )  Backset             25mm ( 1″ ) M/35/25 / 914 / TN1 / 753 / 16-SC / 30
8778163 Gear Tongue  @ 6 5/16″  45mm – ( 1 3/4″ )  Backset             25mm ( 1″ ) M/45/25 / 914 / TN1 / 753 / 16-SC / 30
2406346 Gear Tongue  @ 11 9/16″ 60mm – (2 3/8″ )  Backset             25mm ( 1″ ) M/60/25 / 914 / TN1 / 620 / 16-SC / 160
2406354 Gear Tongue  @ 9 9/16″ 60mm – (2 3/8″ )  Backset             25mm ( 1″ ) M/60/25 / 914 / TN1 / 671 / 16-SC / 115
2406362 Gear Tongue  @ 6 5/16″ 60mm – (2 3/8″ )  Backset             25mm ( 1″ ) M/60/25 / 914 / TN1 / 753 / 16-SC / 30
2406371 Gear Tongue  @ 11 9/16″ 70mm – (2 3/4″ )  Backset             25mm ( 1″ ) M/70/25 / 914 / TN1 / 620 / 16-SC / 160
2406389 Gear Tongue  @ 9 9/16″ 70mm – (2 3/4″ )  Backset             25mm ( 1″ ) M/70/25 / 914 / TN1 / 671 / 16-SC / 115
2406397 Gear Tongue  @ 6 5/16″ 70mm – (2 3/4″ )  Backset             25mm ( 1″ ) M/70/25 / 914 / TN1 / 753 / 16-SC / 30

One of the most common mistakes customers make when buying a replacement tongue lock is simply by not choosing the correct measurement. If you take a little time and measure the lock correctly, you should be able to find the exact lock that you need. Another mistake that is commonly make is that customers buy a single point lock to repair a broken multipoint lock. This will not work since the 2 lock types are not the same.

A multipoint lock has an internal slide bar that transfers motion onto connected lock extensions while a single point lock does not. A single point lock does not work as a multipoint gearbox replacement. Below are some indications that your lock may have internal parts that are broken.

  1. Door is stuck or jammed and cannot be opened

  2. Lever handle is sagging or drooping and not returning to the horizontal rest position after the door has been opened.

  3. Lock seems to be stripped when opening the door. internal gear teeth are slipping and not disengaging the lock points.

  4. Lock makes a crunchy noise when opening or locking the door.

  5. Unable to activate the deadbolt after lifting up on the handle.

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